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Should business owners control student group shopping? : The Saturday Weekend Review #93

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Student group shopping is not new and neither is theft in retail stores across the world.

Living in a city where there is a University we see plenty of students come September roaming the streets in large groups. The same goes for high school students.

The shops in our city are jam-packed with students and line-ups are huge especially if the shop is in a school district. I know the Shoppers Drug Mart we go to is always packed with groups of University students from September until school breaks for summer holidays.

 

Large student groups are hard to control

 

Theft happens every day but for Dollar store giant Dollarama in Toronto a policy of one student in the store shopping at a time is being called discriminatory by local area high school students.

The store is taking preventive measures to control the mobs of students that come in but not saying they don’t want students as customers rather they want to protect themselves from loss. Shoplifting is a big deal to any store and sometimes students dare each other to steal just to see if they get caught because it seems like something “cool to do” or even a form of initiation.

To prevent or discourage theft Dollarama allows one student in at a time. I can see both sides of the story here but where do we draw the line? Keep in mind this store also has two hired security staff as well.

Not all students steal and even if you are in a group of students and one of them steals something you may as well be part of the action. Some may say you are guilty by association but if you are a genuine good person and the person who stole isn’t how is that a reflection on your personality? I don’t blame anyone but the person who steals and those people who knew that the person was stealing.

 

Business owners are doing whatever it takes

 

I know if I owned a store I’d do what I had to do even if that meant hiring more staff or other taking preventive measures to make sure that I could control theft. Most people would do the same if it’s their life, their money, their business. When you are self-employed such as business owners when people steal from you it’s like they are taking money from your pay cheque which feeds their family and pays the bills.

Even though the “Large group policy” is in place for all Dollarama stores what are the odds of large groups of anyone but students to come in? Depending on your city you might get a tour bus stop come around with a tourist group who wants to shop. Does that mean that only one person at a time can come in if they are in a large group? Or is this only for students? I’m still not sure how large is large either, four, five, ten or twenty.

 

Thefts hurts everyone

 

Let’s face it, students love to spend money and businesses certainly don’t want to pass up legitimate shoppers who want to spend cash. Theft is big business all around the world and one of the reasons we see price increases on products every year.

It’s not just students who steal either. Anyone no matter age or gender will steal if that is what they set out to do. People have their own reasons for stealing but at the end of the day someone has to pay for that theft if they are not caught. Most often it’s the business owner and the paying customers who pick up the tab.

 

Students in the mall

 

You can walk through the mall on any given day and see hoards of students shopping and hanging out with friends. The malls have security throughout and so do most stores. Not once have I seen a shop in the mall turn away groups of shoppers because of theft although it wouldn’t surprise me if it happens.

My wife says she had worked in the mall for many years in shops that appealed to the younger generation. Not once did they turn students in groups away and she said that they were always coming in the store. Employees made sure to be on the floor watching ALL customers and paying attention to what they were doing.

Some stores ask students to leave their bags at the front door to lessen the urge to steal. Where do you draw the line though? Do you say only students have to leave their bags at the door? There are likely just as many non-students who steal so why do we put all our focus just on the students?

Personally, I think the 1 student at a time rule is a bit excessive especially with two hired security guards even if it’s just to combat the disruptive behaviour. If the students decide to break apart from a group and say they are on their own I wonder if they still have to wait to shop. Maybe it should be a one person at a time rule instead of just student focus since it’s a large group policy which should pertain to any age or gender.

So many unanswered questions… although I have not read the Dollarama large group policy. I don’t know the law in Canada for this or even if there is one but I do know that business owners will take matters into their own hands to make sure their profits aren’t walking out the door.

What are your thoughts on whether this is discrimination or not?

 

Canadian Budget Binder blog news

 

Not too much action this week besides some excitement for Dan who guest posted here last week from Our Big Fat Wallet who had his post “How going vegan affected our budget” shared by Rob Carrick at The Globe and Mail. It was nice to have a CBB post featured two weeks in a row at The Globe.

 

CBB blog posts this week

 

Just in case you’ve missed any of my blog posts this week I will link to them all below.

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Fan deals and inspirations

 

juanitas deals of the week

Submit your Brag or Inspiration If you have a brag that you want me to share email me at canadianbudgetbinder (@) [yahoo] [.ca] or fill out my contact form by Friday each week to have your brag considered for the Saturday post.

This week CBB Fan Juanita wanted to share her garage sale deals with us. Thanks Juanita!

  • This past Saturday I went to a garage sale down the street and got some amazing deals!!!
    2 plasma cars
    2 wooden puzzles
    2 skull candles
    1 jarred candle
    1 pea coat
    2 pairs of shoes
    4 pairs of pants
    All for the sweet price for $40!!
    The plasma cars were only a few months old and are at least $60 brand new.

 

Making A Difference

 

If you know a personal finance blogger that is making a difference and want to nominate them please send me an email canadianbudgetbinder (@) yahoo.ca so I can reach out to them for a feature story.

Hey all! My name is Tania and I’m a math addict.

Now, being addicted to math isn’t all it’s cracked up to be…..for one thing, I can’t do the groceries without comparing the per unit prices on everything, so it takes a long time. Also, I maintain this monster spreadsheet on our finances that runs well into our retirement years. Anyway, after years of secret calculating, I decided to come out of hiding and use my powers for good instead of evil.

I’ve learned to be proud of my love for compound interest and to embrace my comparison shopping ways. On my blog at Moneygal.ca. I’m helping people to see that debt is the enemy and that life can be awesome even if you’re following a strict budget.

I’m always happy to share my findings on things like whether you should use the equity in your home to pay down debt or how much life insurance you should carry. And of course, those findings always boil down to the numbers.

I firmly believe that everyone can and should live the life they truly desire, and that having more money is not necessarily the answer to all of life’s woes. Simply managing the money you do have more efficiently is often the key to reducing your daily stresses and enjoying life more.

So until we meet again, I urge you all to embrace your inner math nerd and run the numbers….you might find that you’re doing better financially than you thought!

 

Top recipe

 

red velvet muffins

If you don’t already know I have a second Facebook page called The Free Recipe Depot where I share recipes from other Food Bloggers from around the world.

Once a week I pick one recipe that has been submitted as my Top Recipe of the week. Trust me when I say this is no easy task as some of these foodies can cook up a storm.

This week I found this lovely recipe shared at The Free Recipe Depot for Red Velvet Cupcakes from my My Wife’s Muffin blog. Check it out!!

 

Editor’s Pick

 

Every week I will pick a blog post of the week from around the web that I found interesting and want to share with you and an Editor’s top blog post pick.

Editor’s blog post pick of the week

This week Grayson shares a post at Frugal Rules titled “Would you uproot your family for more money?” which was something the wife and I talked about last week. We live in the GTA which is expensive no matter which surrounding city you are in let alone right in Toronto.

Money can be tight for anyone and although we have no mortgage we still have bills to pay. I’m in the beginning stages of an important transition in my career which will see from my understanding a significant wage hike (fingers crossed). Now that we have a son that means more money will be spent on making sure he gets what he needs.

If I had the opportunity to uproot my family for a better job we would certainly consider it depending on where it was that we’d be going. I’m no stranger to moving far away for love and to start a new life but there’s more to it than just the money.

When you have a family, moving for a higher paid job is a difficult decision. You can’t just think of yourself, but you have to think of everyone in the scenario.

A great read and lots to consider if you are thinking about uprooting your family for career opportunities.

 

Google search terms

 

Every week I get thousands of people visit Canadian Budget Binder because they did a search online and found my blog. Keep in mind any spelling errors below are because I share with you the exact way they typed their search engine query to land on my blog.

  • How to go bankrupt– That’s exactly what I never want to find out about.
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Thanks for joining me for this edition of The Saturday Weekend Review #93. Join me here again for more crazy stories from around the web and at home.

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4 Comments

  1. Not allowing students in large groups is not a good way to control theft. Hiring extra security staff or not allowing backpacks inside the shop can be a better policy for that. A discrimination will definitely damage the reputation of the shop. Also, the fact that some students steal things doesn’t mean everyone does that. There can be others too who does the theft. I have heard cases where innocent students present in a shop were automatically convicted after a theft happens. Such false accusations hurt many student’s future. Not everyone could afford the services of good theft lawyers like Kostman & Pyzer Barristers in Toronto.

  2. The drug store I shop at has a no backpack policy. All backpacks are to be left at the front of the store. Doesn’t matter if it’s a student or some one else, the backpack is left at the front. They also have video cameras. Didn’t stop the store from being broken into a few weeks ago. That was a smash and grab for drugs and, apparently there have been over a dozen of these smash and grab break-ins around the county. Best guess is the stores were cased ahead of time as the thieves were in and out pretty quick and knew exactly what they wanted and where it was. And how to get into a locked cabinet fast.
    I have heard around town that the Buck or Two store here has a big problem with shop lifting, sadly. A lot of small cheap things there that would be easy to steal. The local OPP know there is an element in town to keep an eye on.
    Part of the issue is that in order to have some one charged, you need to actually see them take something. Suspicion is not enough. Way back when I worked at the old K-Mart stores they had floor walkers to watch people. I lost count of the number of times I went to go into an upstairs stockroom and got told to turn the light off!!!!!! There were vents up there they looked out. There will always be an people that steal for the heck of it or some other such reason. Because they can…because they think they are entitled and so on.
    Juanita got some nice deals this week!!!! I read Grayson’s article on Frugal Rules…good read!!! Have a good weekend!!!

  3. I definitely think refusing to allow students in the store in groups is discriminatory. Frankly any type of age, class, race, gender, ableness, etc-based profiling is kind of gross and would make me want to avoid those stores ASAP. If the students are being rowdy, throw them out. Or if they’re stealing, obviously do the same. But refusing to let them into the store based on some profiling. Yuck. E.g. they could have a no-backpacks/ no large bag policy (or check-in at the door). Something uniformly enforced that would prevent the means of theft rather than trying to pinpoint possible potential pilferers.

    1. Oh they let them in, just one at a time. I can’t even begin to imagine how long it would take to get in and shop if I were in a group of students or in a large group of people because it’s a large group policy not a large student group policy. That means to me that it could be large groups of adults as well,although I haven’t read the policy.

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